Idaho State Drinking Water and Waste Water Professionals Board

Bureau of Occupational Licenses

1109 Main Street, Suite 220

Boise, Idaho 83702-5642


Minutes of May 24-25, 2006





ROLL CALL:                          William A Thompson-Chair                 

                                                Kevin M Pfenning, Board Member

                                                Michael N Schroeder, Board Member

                                                Robert F. Hansen, Board Member

                                                Richard Dees, Board Member

                                                Ross Spackman, Board Member

                                                Barry Burnell, DEQ Representative




  PRESENT:                             Rayola Jacobsen, Bureau Chief

                                                Roger Hales, Administrative Attorney

                                                Mary Miles, Technical Records Specialist I



OTHER’S PRESENT:             Steven Mortensen, ABPA vice President

                                                Michael Moss, ABPA Region 5 Director

                                                Ralph Martini, ABPA Idaho Chapter

                                                Leslie Wilder, ABPA Secretary

                                                Victor Coles


The meeting was called to order at 8:55 a.m. by Chair, Bill Thompson. 


Motion made by Bob Hansen to approve the minutes of the January 18, 2006 board meeting. Seconded by Mike Schroeder, motion passed.


Motion made by Mike Schroeder to approve the minutes of the May 8, 2006 conference call. Seconded by Kevin Pfenning, motion passed.


Ms. Jacobsen presented the legislative report. The proposed reduction of fees was approved by both houses of the legislature and went into effect upon the adjournment of the legislature. The bureau has been assigned 2 additional boards; the Athletic Commission and Physical Therapists. An update on the contractor registration was given.


Ms. Jacobsen presented the financial report. The fiscal year end is June 30, 2006. The first week of July the report will be posted on the website. The financial report is available to the public on the IBOL website.


Ms. Jacobsen presented the investigative report. There are two (2) complaints for 2006. One has been referred to the Attorney General’s office, one is (1) under investigation. There were two (2) complaints for 2005; 1 has been closed and 1 is under investigation.


Ralph Martini, President of the ABPA Idaho chapter addressed the board regarding Backflow Assembly Tester examinations and re-certifications. If an operator holds an ABPA license; failing the re-certification exam will not affect their Idaho BAT license.

The board would like to see the question added to the application form regarding holding an ABPA license.


A motion from the July 27, 2005 minutes is as follows: “Motion was made by Mike Schroeder to accept ABPA exam for purposes of equivalency. Seconded by Kevin Pfenning, motion passed.”


Discussion of Very Small Water System licensure and operators maintaining multiple licenses.


Discussion of Rule 300.02.l; Backflow Assembly Tester qualifications. You must be 18 years old, have proof of age, and have a high school diploma/GED. There was discussion of age requirement and the Idaho Statue 54-2409.


Victor Coles presented to the board information regarding ABC online testing. Discussion of possible contractors to administer the exams, locations, annual fees, and proctors. The board may need to have conference calls or meet more often to review and approve applications.


Motion made by Bob Hansen to scan 25 applications to a CD, mail it to the board for review and schedule a conference call for application approval. CD will be mailed out the first of the month and the conference call will be the third (3) Wednesday of each month at 9am. Seconded by Richard Dees, motion passed.


Motion made by Barry Burnell for IBOL to investigate options for the board to consider online testing. Seconded by Mike Schroeder, motion passed.


Break at 10:55 am.

Called to order at 11:05 am.


Discussion of facilities hiring summer help. Summer help can be hired as long as they are not making operational changes. Reference to Rule 010.06 Operating Personnel. Operating personnel means any person who is employed, retained, or appointed to conduct the tasks associated with the day-to-day operation and maintenance of a public drinking water system or a public wastewater system. Operating personnel shall include every person making system control or system integrity decisions about water quantity or water quality that may affect public health. (3-24-05)


Discussion of operators in charge maintaining liability insurance. The board cannot provide legal advice and suggest that the operator consult their legal counsel.


Discussion of the availability of multi-level exams from ABC.


Roger Hales discussed the letter written to the City of Franklin.


The board discussed and approved the deletion of question #14 from the application.


Discussion of issuing certificates to operators who received their license from DEQ. Under the contract definitions IBOL will only issue certificates to operators receiving their original license through Occupational Licensing.


Discussion regarding grandparent licenses having the “GP” on the license. This has been completed; all drinking water and wastewater licenses obtained under the Grandparent provision are identified with the “GP”.


Discussion on CEU course instructors; they are not required to be a licensed operator.

The approval of instructors is part of the CEU course approval process. The qualifications are submitted with the course approval application.


Motion made by Barry Burnell to adjourn for lunch and return at 1:00 pm. Seconded by Ross Spackman, motion passed.


Called to order at 1:10 pm.


Motion made by Barry Burnell to nominate William Thompson to serve as the Board Chair for the term from July 2005 to June 2006. Seconded by Bob Hansen, motion passed.


Motion was made by Ross Spackman to go into Executive Session to review applications exempt from public disclosure per Chapter 3, Title 9, Idaho Code. Seconded by Mike Schroeder, motion passed


Mary Miles presented Continuing Education Courses to the Board for approval.


The Board approved the following courses:

  • Wastewater I & II Certification Review – Brown Environmental
  • Confined Space Entry – OXARC, Inc.


Meeting recessed at 4:30 pm


May 25, 2006


Chairman Bill Thompson called the meeting to order at 7:50 a.m. Board members present: Chairman Bill Thompson, Richard Dees, Robert Hansen, Mike Schroeder, Kevin Pfenning. and Ross Spackman. Barry Burnell was Absent.


Motion was made by Kevin Pfenning to go into Executive Session to review applications exempt from public disclosure per Chapter 3, Title 9, Idaho Code. Seconded by Mike Schroeder, motion passed.


Motion made by Bob Hansen to come out of executive session. Seconded by Kevin Pfenning, motion passed.


The next board meeting is scheduled for September 20, 2006.


The board meeting was adjourned at 9:50 a.m.



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William A. Thompson, Chair                                         Richard Dees



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Kevin M. Pfenning                                                        Michael N. Schroeder



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Ross Spackman                                                            Robert F. Hansen



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Barry Burnell                                                               Rayola Jacobsen, Bureau Chief