Bureau of Occupational Licenses

1109 Main Street, Suite 220

Boise, ID 83702-5642 


Conference Call Minutes of 2/26/2010



BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: Shirlie Meyer - Chair

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Dale Eaton

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Vicky Goettsche

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Linda L. Simon

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Pat Gooding††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††


BUREAU STAFF: ††††††††††††††††††††††††† Tana Cory, Bureau Chief

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Lori Peel, Investigative Unit Manager

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Roger Hales, Administrative Attorney

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Cherie Simpson, Management Assistant

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Carrie Gilstrap, Technical Records Specialist II

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Janice Wiedrick, Technical Records Specialist


OTHERS PRESENT:†††††††††††††††††††† Robert VandeMerwe, IHCA/ICAL

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Keith Fletcher, CCAC

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Mark Maxfield, IHCA

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Verlene Kaiser, RCA/AL

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Randy May, H & W



The meeting was called to order at 8:00 AM MST by Shirlie Meyer.






Introductions of all those present were made. Discussion was held regarding the Boardís proposed legislation, House Bill 539, to revise candidate qualifications for licensure. Ms. Meyer opened the floor to hear comments from the guests.


Mr. VandeMerwe stated he believes Idaho is different than the national standard. He added that many individuals are not able to obtain managerial experience within a residential care facility. He also stated he would like to create greater flexibility by drafting new language.


Mr. Fletcher asked to define education and experience and whether or not this could go beyond residential care facilities. He stated the smaller facilities would need to create managerial experience positions to meet the requirement as proposed in this legislation. In addition, he stated this would then increase expenses for these facilities. Mr. Fletcher stated he would like to be involved in the rule making process.


Mr. Maxfield surveyed administrators and asked how they felt about the changes to the qualifications for licensure. He stated the results varied; however, all of those surveyed agreed that increasing the qualifications would be a positive thing.Mr. Maxfield concluded that he would oppose the proposed legislation as it is currently written.


Ms. Kaiser stated she partially agrees. However, Idaho is not that unique when compared on a national level. Ms. Kaiser stated there is a difference in educational degrees and that is when you must look at relevant experience.


Ms. Goettsche stated the definitions should be in rule. By doing this it keeps the statute solid and allows the rules to define the credentials. Ms. Simon stated she agrees with Ms. Goettsche. Ms. Simon stated Jamie Simpson, Health and Welfare, approached the Board and requested there be an increase to the licensing standards. The Board then created the criteria for this. Mr. Eaton stated he agrees with the Boardís actions in creating these higher standards for both the education and experience fields. He added that he wants to give the profession some integrity, not create hardship for any smaller facilities. Ms. Meyer stated the Board has seen an increase in the number of complaints and there is concern about public protection. She added the Board invited others to attend prior meetings when proposed changes were on the agenda for discussion. This included invitations to the Association and Health and Welfare. The Association did have representatives at earlier meetings.


Mr. Hales stated increasing qualifications for licensure should be addressed in statute.


Mr. May joined via conference call. Mr. May stated the complaints Health and Welfare has received against residential care facilities have been substantiated however not all complaints dealt with newly licensed administrators. Ms. Peel reported the Bureau has received 17 complaints to date for 2010. Ms. Kaiser stated that since the complaints have increased, action does need to be taken.


Mr. Holloway proposed a substitution including having a mentor for one year in small communities similar to the AIT program for nursing home administrators.


Mr. VandeMerwe expressed concern about the added costs to the facility for a mentor.Ms. Kaiser suggested a peer review system.Mr. Hales stated that the Board had several options as to how to proceed.


Mr. Eaton moved to pull House Bill 539, and work together with all entities to present a new bill in 2011.Ms. Goettsche seconded, motion carried.


Ms. Cory stated the legislative ideas must be submitted to the Governorís office by August 1, 2010.




Regular meeting on April 15, 2010 at 9:00 a.m.




Ms. Simon moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:15 a.m.Seconded by Mr. Eaton, motion carried.



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Shirlie Meyer, Chair††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Dale Eaton



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Vicky Goettsche†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Linda L. Simon



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Pat Gooding†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Tana Cory, Bureau Chief