Bureau of Occupational Licenses

1109 Main Street, Suite 220

Boise, ID 83702-5642 


Board Meeting Minutes of 11/19/2008



BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT:  Ione Springer - Chair

                                                             Shirlie Meyer

                                                             Dale Eaton

                                                             Vicky Goettsche

                                                             Linda L. Simon                                                        


BUREAU STAFF:                           Tana Cory, Bureau Chief

                                                            Dawn Hall, Deputy Bureau Chief

                                                            Roger Hales, Administrative Attorney

                                                            Carrie Gilstrap, Technical Records Specialist


OTHERS PRESENT:                     Robert VandeMerwe, Jamie Simpson, Kris Ellis


Meeting was called to order at 9:05 AM MST by Ione Springer.




A motion was made by Ms. Simon to accept the minutes of October 22, 2008 as corrected. Seconded by Ms. Goettsche, motion carried. 






 Mr. Eaton stated five individuals took the pilot Headmasters exam. In addition to himself, there were representatives from different sized  facilities; and a representative from Health and Welfare Bureau of Facility Standards. Of those five, one passed. This was in part because there were many answers that Headmasters had marked incorrectly.


Mr. VandeMerwe stated he spent the weekend going over each of the 500 questions and marking them correctly. He added that approximately 10% of the answers had to be corrected.


Mr. Eaton asked the participants to send statements on how they felt about the test. One respondent stated there were not enough questions and believes the current National Association of Boards (NAB) is more appropriate. Another said the test was too easy. Another participant stated she thought that more questions would be better and that some of the regulation questions were too obscure. She also stated that having two exams is a good thing. Mr. Eaton stated he expected the exam to be more challenging and with more questions. He recommends the open book exam on rules and regulations be required for all applicants along with either the Headmasters or NAB exam. He added that he wants the exam to be challenging but fair and one way to do this is to increase the number of questions.


Discussion was held regarding the mis-marked test questions and the development process. Ms. Simon discussed  the process NAB goes through to develop questions.


Discussion was held on the Board reviewing each test question.  Mr. Hales stated the Board needs to do something to gain a comfort level and doesn’t see a problem with the Board reviewing the questions.


Ms. Springer stated she has concerns over this exam and the fact that it doesn’t have a bibliography.


Ms. Simpson stated she thinks the test should be the final step to show a person is competent and has concerns over the lack of experience required to take the NAB exam.


Mr. Hales stated the Board tried to increase the requirement but was denied in the Legislature. He added the Board could require an internship similar to what the Nursing Home Board does. Mr. VandeMerwe stated the association agrees with implementing a course that would require an internship. Mr. Eaton agreed with implementing an internship.


Discussion was held regarding the process for approving a candidate to take the Headmasters exam. Ms. Goettsche stated the process should be the same for both exams.


Mr. VandeMerwe stated he could schedule a meeting and have the representative from Headmasters come and present the exam questions and the bibliography.


Ms. Goettsche asked if there was study material available for the applicant. Mr. VandeMerwe stated they are developing a curriculum.


Mr. Eaton stated the Board needs to review all test questions and determine if an increased number of questions is appropriate as well as run another pilot for the exam. He also would like an applicant to go through an internship. Ms. Springer stated this would require a law change.


A motion was made by Ms. Meyer to table the decision to approve the Headmasters exam; to meet as a Board in executive session or a sub-committee to review exam questions; to meet with the association and Headmasters to review the exam development process including the bibliography and number of exam questions; and to authorize those individuals to re-take the pilot test. Seconded by Ms. Simon, motion carried. 


Ms. Springer stated the Board needs to start looking at changes to their statute to increase the experience requirement to qualify for licensure. Mr. Hales stated increasing qualifications can be a difficult issue and the Board may want to form a sub-committee to do some research on what other states require.


The next meeting has been scheduled for 12/15/2008 at 9:00 a.m. with the representative from the Headmasters exam and Mr. VandeMerwe. The Board will also meet the following day, if needed, to complete their review of the test questions. If all Board members can not be present, a sub-committee will be formed including Mr. Eaton and Ms. Simon.




A motion was made by Mr. Eaton to enter into executive session to discuss applications exempt from public disclosure as per Idaho Code 67-2345.1(d). Seconded by Ms. Simon. The vote was: Ms. Springer, aye; Ms. Simon, aye; Ms. Goettsche, aye; and Mr. Eaton, aye. Motion carried.


A motion was made by Ms. Meyer to come out of executive session. Seconded by Mr. Eaton. The vote was: Ms. Springer, aye; Ms. Simon, aye; Ms. Goettsche, aye; and Mr. Eaton, aye. Motion carried.






RCAA-1467 A motion was made by Mr. Eaton to allow the applicant to take the NAB exam. Seconded by Ms. Meyer, motion carried.


The next regularly scheduled meeting is tentatively scheduled for Wednesday January 7, 2008 at 9:00 a.m.


A motion was made by Ms. Simon to adjourn the meeting at 11:35 a.m. Seconded by Ms. Goettsche, motion carried.

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Ione Springer, Chair                                         Shirlie Meyer

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Dale Eaton                                                       Vicky Goettsche

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Linda L. Simon                                                 Tana Cory, Bureau Chief