Bureau of Occupational Licenses

1109 Main Street, Suite 220

Boise, ID 83702-5642 


Board Meeting Minutes of 10/8/2009



BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: James A. Thomas - Chair

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† William J. Dial

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† William A. Ogram, IV


BUREAU STAFF: ††††††††††††††††††††††††† Tana Cory, Bureau Chief

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Lori Peel, Investigative Unit Supervisor

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Cherie Simpson, Management Assistant

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Karl Klein, Administrative Attorney


OTHERS PRESENT:†††††††††††††††††††† Jon Breckon, American Society of Landscape Architects


The meeting was called to order at 11:00 AM MDT by James A. Thomas.




Mr. Ogram moved to approve the minutes of July 9, 2009, and August 17, 2009 as written.Mr. Dial seconded the motion, and it carried.




Ms. Simpson presented the financial report showing a positive balance of $13,244.80.




Ms. Simpson presented the renewal contract between the Bureau and the Board for review.Mr. Dial moved to accept the 2010 contract renewal and have Chairman Thomas sign it on behalf of the Board.Mr. Ogram seconded the motion, and it carried.




For case number I-LAR-2009-1, Mr. Ogram moved to accept the Bureauís recommendation to close the file.Mr. Dial seconded the motion, and it carried.




Mr. Klein explained the changes made effective July 1, 2009, in the Open Meeting Law, and distributed copies of the new Open Meeting Law handbook to the Board members.




Discussion was held on the Boardís proposed boiler-plate letter for plan stamping.Mr. Klein advised the Board about the difference between professional associations and licensing boards, the narrow function of licensing boards, and the law and risks associated with a board giving advice and issuing position statements on scope of practice issues.He recommended that if the

Board nevertheless wants to provide some non-enforceable guidance on a recurring issue, the guidance should be in a single, posted public document rather than in ad hoc letters from Board counsel to a person or entity written upon licensee request.Mr. Klein suggested that the Board might post any such guidance on its website to ensure easy public access.Mr. Ogram moved to have Mr. Klein work with Mr. Thomas to develop such guidance for inclusion on a website list of frequently asked questions, and that the resulting document be discussed at a future conference call.Mr. Dial seconded the motion, and it carried.


CLARB Meeting in Seattle


Mr. Dial presented handouts from the CLARB meeting for review and reported:

1.      Washingtonís practice act has passed.

2.      ASLA has budget cuts due to the economy.

3.      Canada is thinking of joining CLARB.

4.      Dues will not exceed $5,170 by 2012.

5.      Red-line reviews will be conducted by a volunteer committee and will

†††††† include more information to candidates.

6.      CLARB has financial issues but is in good shape at this time.

7.      Council Records are being checked more closely for certification.

8.      CLARB has a disciplinary data base.

9.      Continuing education courses are available on-line.Thirty-two states

†††††† require continuing education, 17 states do not require CE.

10. CLARB has a directory on-line and is working on more technology.

11. Discussion was held on Landscape Designers.




Mr. Ogram moved that the Board enter executive session, under Idaho Code 67-2345 (1) (d), to consider records that are exempt from disclosure under the Idaho Public Records Law.The purpose of the executive session was to consider license application materials.†† Mr. Dial seconded the motion.Aye voles: Mr. Dial, Mr. Ogram, and Mr. Thomas.Nay voles: none.Motion carried.


Mr. Dial moved to come out of executive session.Mr. Ogram seconded the motion. Aye voles: Mr. Dial, Mr. Ogram, and Mr. Thomas.Nay voles: none.Motion carried.




Mr. Dial moved to approve licensure to:


Robert B. Donnigan LA-16695

Gary Lee Young††††††††††††††††††† LA-16696


Mr. Ogram seconded the motion, and it carried.




The next meeting is January 13, 2010, at 11:00 a.m. MST.




Mr. Ogram moved to adjourn the meeting at 2:15 p.m.Mr. Dial seconded the motion, and it carried.

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James A. Thomas, Chair†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† William J. Dial

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William A. Ogram, Iv††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Tana Cory, Bureau Chief